#office-hours - January 2021 | Slack Archive

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Public "Office Hours" are held every Wednesday at 11:30 PST via Zoom. It's open to everyone. Ask questions related to DevOps & Cloud and get answers!
👉️ https://cpco.io/slack-office-hours

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Weston Platterover 5 years ago

A question I have about https://github.com/cloudposse/terraform-aws-ecs-cloudwatch-sns-alarms ... I'm using it to scale up/down the number of Fargate Tasks for an ECS Service. My issue is that it the scale down action continues to scale the task count below the min desired count. What I'm trying to achieve is for the scale down process to not scale below the min desired count.

Weston Platterover 5 years ago

Asking this here so I can ask this during this week's office hours.

Eric Bergover 5 years ago

Question for today's discussion: When deploying via helm, do you use hacked versions of the full values.yaml files or a file with just diffs? Which is better for managing upgrades of things like the datadog agent, going forward?

erikover 5 years ago

@here office hours is starting in 30 minutes! Remember to post your questions here.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 5 years ago

https://sweetops.slack.com/archives/CBW699XE0/p1609362038328900

Mohammed Yahyaover 5 years ago

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) Q : In https://github.com/cloudposse/reference-architectures#3-delegate-dns Can some one explains An available domain we can use for DNS-base service discovery (E.g. <http://ourcompany.co|ourcompany.co>). This domain must not be in use elsewhere as the master account will need to be the authoritative name server (SOA).

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 5 years ago

https://docs.cloudposse.com/community/updating-modules-for-terraform-14/

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Andy Miguelover 5 years ago

https://youtu.be/V2b5F6jt6tQ

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 5 years ago

https://github.com/cloudposse/terraform-null-label/pull/118

Jim Parkover 5 years ago

Is this per field?

Jim Parkover 5 years ago

or is this total?

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Jim Parkover 5 years ago

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) how to preserve most significant digit being at the end of the id?

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 5 years ago

https://github.com/cloudposse/terraform-null-label/pull/107

Jim Parkover 5 years ago

yes, thanks!

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 5 years ago

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/database/moving-on-from-amazon-rds-for-postgresql-versions-9-4/

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Uri Ungerover 5 years ago

Question for me: We are adopting the terraform-aws-jenkins infra and are pretty impressed with it.
I have noticed some issues with the use of EFS though which I wanted to ask about.
I am not sure if we’re somehow doing it wrong or if this is a genuine issue.
1- throughput in terms of single file operations: dsl jobs (as well as master startup time) are quite longer compared to what we experienced with using local store (which we have done in the past). benchmarking on the master node indeed shows a round trip for a single operation is 5-10ms.
2- normal “nfs pain”- network "hickups" results with locked threads in jenkins master that never unlocks.

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Bill Clarkover 5 years ago

Has anyone looked at and/or considered Terraspaces as a framework for terraform? I have setup a quick and dirty environment in a Cloud9 instance and so far am loving it.

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charleszover 5 years ago

hello, what do you guys use for something like constant configuration changes? i was leaning towards ansible but just wanted to see if there is anything out there that works ok too

mfridhover 5 years ago

I am still on bit.y/oauth2_proxy ... it seems like maybe the project itself has moved on and is active still... (I'm on a very old version on the "legacy" services I front with oauth2 proxy still) -- https://github.com/oauth2-proxy/oauth2-proxy

Bill Clarkover 5 years ago

f5 BIG-IP 3DNS?

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 5 years ago

https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/external-dns

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Mohammed Yahyaover 5 years ago

https://docs.mhmd.io/aws/aws-multi-account/

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 5 years ago

https://github.com/cloudposse/terraform-aws-components

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Bill Clarkover 5 years ago

I have not heard of anyone using a dedicated DNS account before👀

Bill Clarkover 5 years ago

Would you talk a little about your thoughts limits around multi-account setup. I think a limit of 10 or perhaps up 20 is manageable, but beyond that I think you should think of creating a new org for more member accounts

mfridhover 5 years ago(edited)

It certainly helps because spreading the zones out is horrible. You might end up needing to use the "prod" DNS from a non-prod account etc...

Bill Clarkover 5 years ago

ruby gem

organicnzover 5 years ago

Any good news about Waypoint?)

organicnzover 5 years ago

Oh you’re already talking about)

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 5 years ago

https://cloudposse.com/faqs/what-is-the-best-way-to-learn-the-terraform/

Jim Parkover 5 years ago

No such thing as “Best Practice.” There are only tendrils of innovation that become increasingly adopted.

Bill Clarkover 5 years ago

What I like about Terraspaces is that you can still go an do it with Terraform, but gives some better structure and easier safeties for a small group.

Jim Parkover 5 years ago

I think one of the most important questions to ask is where on the adoption curve does my organization want to be?

Bill Clarkover 5 years ago

Thanks all! I appreciate the insights.

Zapierover 5 years ago(edited)

👉️ New Zoom Recording from our Office Hours session on 2021-01-06 is now available.

Vlad Ionescu (he/him)over 5 years ago

I know y'all explained the CloudPosse way of defining envs and propagating changes many times, but for the life of me I can't find that recording. Anybody know where I can find it? That part of Office Hours where @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) explained the base Terraform infra, and then the DBs, and then the apps thing. With a flowchart with arrows and nice diagram of things building on top of the previous stages

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@here office hours is starting in 30 minutes! Remember to post your questions here.

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Patrick Jahnsover 5 years ago

Working with the SSO resources - but would be great to also define at least Groups via code

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Mike Martinover 5 years ago

@Bill Clark You mentioned you were getting started with Terraform - this is a GREAT book for “getting up and running”. https://www.amazon.com/Terraform-Running-Writing-Infrastructure-Code/dp/1491977086

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Matt Gowieover 5 years ago

@Mohammed Yahya I think this is one of the outstanding SSO resources that’s still in draft: https://github.com/hashicorp/terraform-provider-aws/pull/15322

I’ve been following that PR and it seems like that might be what you were missing.

Andy Miguelover 5 years ago

https://www.builtinla.com/job/engineer/devops-engineer/75348

Mohammed Yahyaover 5 years ago(edited)

https://www.terraform.io/docs/configuration/types.html#experimental-optional-object-type-attributes

variable "with_optional_attribute" {
  type = object({
    a = string           # a required attribute
    b = optional(string) # an optional attribute
  })
}

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Mohammed Yahyaover 5 years ago

https://infrastructure-as-code.com/book/

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Mohammed Yahyaover 5 years ago

use this CFN templates until TF AWS SSO is ready

Mohammed Yahyaover 5 years ago

AWSTemplateFormatVersion: 2010-09-09

Description: Configure AWS SSO

Parameters:

  AwsSsoInsanceArn: 
    Type: String
    Default: 'arn:aws:sso:::instance/ssoins-XXXXXXXXXXXXX'
    Description: 'AWS SSO Instance ARN.'

Mappings:

  Groups:
    Admins:
      Id: 'XXXXXXX-xxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-XXXXX'
    Developers:
      Id: 'XXXXXXX-xxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-XXXXX'
    Developers-CodeCommit:
      Id: 'XXXXXXX-xxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-XXXXX'
  Accounts:
    master:
      Id: '111111111111'
    shared:
      Id: '222222222222'
    dev:
      Id: '333333333333'
    prod:
      Id: '444444444444'

Resources:

  adminsPermissionSet:
    Type: AWS::SSO::PermissionSet
    Properties: 
      Description: Admins Group Administrator Access Permission Set
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      ManagedPolicies: 
        - arn:aws:iam::aws:policy/AdministratorAccess
      Name: Admins
      Tags: 
        - Key: 'CFN'
          Value: 'Yes'
        - Key: 'Project'
          Value: 'Awesome'
  
  developersPermissionSet:
    Type: AWS::SSO::PermissionSet
    Properties: 
      Description: Developers Group Read Only Access Permission Set
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      ManagedPolicies: 
        - arn:aws:iam::aws:policy/ReadOnlyAccess
      Name: Developers
      Tags: 
        - Key: 'CFN'
          Value: 'Yes'
        - Key: 'Project'
          Value: 'Awesome'

  developersCodeCommitPermissionSet:
    Type: AWS::SSO::PermissionSet
    Properties: 
      Description: Developers Group CodeCommit Access Permission Set
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      ManagedPolicies: 
        - arn:aws:iam::aws:policy/AWSCodeCommitPowerUser
      Name: Developers-CodeCommit
      Tags: 
        - Key: 'CFN'
          Value: 'Yes'
        - Key: 'Project'
          Value: 'Awesome'

  # masterAssignmentAdmins:
  #   Type: AWS::SSO::Assignment
  #   Properties:
  #     InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
  #     PermissionSetArn: !GetAtt adminsPermissionSet.PermissionSetArn
  #     TargetId: !FindInMap [ Accounts, master, Id ]
  #     TargetType: 'AWS_ACCOUNT'
  #     PrincipalType: 'GROUP'
  #     PrincipalId: !FindInMap [ Groups, Admins, Id ]

  sharedAssignmentAdmins:
    Type: AWS::SSO::Assignment
    Properties:
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      PermissionSetArn: !GetAtt adminsPermissionSet.PermissionSetArn
      TargetId: !FindInMap [ Accounts, shared, Id ]
      TargetType: 'AWS_ACCOUNT'
      PrincipalType: 'GROUP'
      PrincipalId: !FindInMap [ Groups, Admins, Id ]

  prodAssignmentAdmins:
    Type: AWS::SSO::Assignment
    Properties:
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      PermissionSetArn: !GetAtt adminsPermissionSet.PermissionSetArn
      TargetId: !FindInMap [ Accounts, prod, Id ]
      TargetType: 'AWS_ACCOUNT'
      PrincipalType: 'GROUP'
      PrincipalId: !FindInMap [ Groups, Admins, Id ]

  devAssignmentAdmins:
    Type: AWS::SSO::Assignment
    Properties:
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      PermissionSetArn: !GetAtt adminsPermissionSet.PermissionSetArn
      TargetId: !FindInMap [ Accounts, dev, Id ]
      TargetType: 'AWS_ACCOUNT'
      PrincipalType: 'GROUP'
      PrincipalId: !FindInMap [ Groups, Admins, Id ]

  devAssignmentDevelopers:
    Type: AWS::SSO::Assignment
    Properties:
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      PermissionSetArn: !GetAtt developersPermissionSet.PermissionSetArn
      TargetId: !FindInMap [ Accounts, dev, Id ]
      TargetType: 'AWS_ACCOUNT'
      PrincipalType: 'GROUP'
      PrincipalId: !FindInMap [ Groups, Developers, Id ]

  prodAssignmentDevelopers:
    Type: AWS::SSO::Assignment
    Properties:
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      PermissionSetArn: !GetAtt developersPermissionSet.PermissionSetArn
      TargetId: !FindInMap [ Accounts, prod, Id ]
      TargetType: 'AWS_ACCOUNT'
      PrincipalType: 'GROUP'
      PrincipalId: !FindInMap [ Groups, Developers, Id ]

  sharedAssignmentDevelopers:
    Type: AWS::SSO::Assignment
    Properties:
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      PermissionSetArn: !GetAtt developersPermissionSet.PermissionSetArn
      TargetId: !FindInMap [ Accounts, shared, Id ]
      TargetType: 'AWS_ACCOUNT'
      PrincipalType: 'GROUP'
      PrincipalId: !FindInMap [ Groups, Developers, Id ] 

  sharedAssignmentDevelopersCodeCommit:
    Type: AWS::SSO::Assignment
    Properties:
      InstanceArn: !Ref AwsSsoInsanceArn
      PermissionSetArn: !GetAtt developersCodeCommitPermissionSet.PermissionSetArn
      TargetId: !FindInMap [ Accounts, shared, Id ]
      TargetType: 'AWS_ACCOUNT'
      PrincipalType: 'GROUP'
      PrincipalId: !FindInMap [ Groups, Developers-CodeCommit, Id ]

Bill Clarkover 5 years ago

If you have time and interest talk about your Codefresh GitOps method. And did you look and consider the Gitlab terraform automation? Pros and Cons

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https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/rest/reference/repos#deployments

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👉️ New Zoom Recording from our Office Hours session on 2021-01-13 is now available.

erikover 5 years ago

@here office hours is starting in 30 minutes! Remember to post your questions here.

Mohammed Yahyaover 5 years ago

Will this affect Terraform ?
<https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/01/aws-sdk-for-go-version-2-now-generally-available/>

Matt Gowieover 5 years ago

Does anyone follow a git flow (i.e. develop + master branches) pattern for larger Terraform repositories? How has that worked out for you?

PePe Amengualover 5 years ago

https://sweetops.slack.com/archives/CB6GHNLG0/p1611084777103000

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)over 5 years ago

https://sweetops.slack.com/archives/CB6GHNLG0/p1611170646115200

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btaiover 5 years ago

any tips for improving global s3 upload speed? (think india, hong kong, etc) what other optimizations could I possibly make after turning on s3 transfer acceleration and using multipart uploads?

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Sebastian Stadilover 5 years ago(edited)

Question re: office hours. What types of internal users have you seen typically use these prebuilt stacks / catalog?

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Michael Dizonover 5 years ago

Are you guys going to update examples in atmos? I’d love to get it going!

sheldonhover 5 years ago

Whatever cloud provider, a registry for easy review and calling of modules is key. I checked and Env0 didn’t have it at this time. Scalyr i think did. Spacelift i haven’t checkout out, but will look too.

I really want to towards that curated high quality modules for teams to use this way.

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sheldonhover 5 years ago

Cloudposse modules are epic 🙂 I’m always looking to leverage them. I just painfully used a new datadog monitor project that wasn’t Cloudposse as it was a bit more extensive and it felt like pulling teeth.

Much ❤️ 😁

sheldonhover 5 years ago

For what it’s worth I’ve read that this type of concept:

You want to simplify, that’s great! Simplifying complex systems though often is basically shifting around complexity. In this case… do you want Terragrunt to manage the complexity and it’s own flow, or do you shift it to the user, or a yaml config for example.

I think it’s a case of where do you feel the complexity should be best moved.

Food for though.

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sheldonhover 5 years ago(edited)

WOOT WOOT. I didn’t see atmos. Is this built on top of variant2?

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sheldonhover 5 years ago

Seriously you guys are on FIRE

Matt Gowieover 5 years ago

tfswitch — https://tfswitch.warrensbox.com/

sheldonhover 5 years ago

asdf is about the ultimate expression of lazy typing i’ve ever seen. Absolutely love it!

sheldonhover 5 years ago

Go is HUGE on backward compatibility. They have a promise even on “deprecated” features to never break functionality.

I’d say even if they move to SDK v2, it’s not going to impact us overall.

sheldonhover 5 years ago

Pretty sure SDK v2 has been out for years before this announcement too, so it’s not “new”. It’s been in usage from 2018 i believe. It simplifies a lot of code too.

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👉️ New Zoom Recording from our Office Hours session on 2021-01-20 is now available.

erikabout 5 years ago

@here office hours is starting in 30 minutes! Remember to post your questions here.

Leia Renéeabout 5 years ago(edited)

Hi Erik,
I’m having trouble with companies regular meetings. I kindly suggested them to squeeze meetings into 1 or 2 days so developers can have full silent days focusing their job. I’ve found these articles to support my proposal.

Context switching and an engineer’s mile-long trail of mental notes are sworn enemies. As legendary computer scientist and entrepreneur Paul Graham says, “One reason programmers dislike meetings so much is that they’re on a different type of schedule from other people. Meetings cost them more.”

https://slack.com/intl/en-tr/blog/productivity/slack-on-slack-how-devs-reduce-distractions

https://hbr.org/2017/07/stop-the-meeting-madness

I wonder if I’m alone on this fight or not? 😊

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)about 5 years ago

https://sweetops.slack.com/archives/CB6GHNLG0/p1611647184069600

PePe Amengualabout 5 years ago

https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/26/qualys_sudo_bug/

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What to do if something that is 0.X was inadverdently published as 1.X and we want to turn back time and go back to 0.X?

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buildah

Leia Renéeabout 5 years ago(edited)

We should also discuss this sometimes, since it is a revolution 🎉
https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/deploy-any-resource-with-the-new-kubernetes-provider-for-hashicorp-terraform

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I’m using multibranch GitOps approach, every environment lives in a seperate branch

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how does geodesic/atmos fit into git workflows? we are currently using tf cloud with diferent workspaces for dev, stag and prod

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So is a better alternative to standup just to write what you would say into slack?

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Mahmoudabout 5 years ago

Just to clarify, this is what you guys are referring to with the “maker schedule” right?
http://paulgraham.com/makersschedule.html

Leia Renéeabout 5 years ago

Thanks 😊

Andrew Rothabout 5 years ago

Re: Standup bot, my team uses both.. We use Dixi, but it doesn’t really matter which tool is used.

1. We believe async standup can’t replace in person standup, but does enhance it
2. Our in-person standup is guided by looking at the async responses - It keeps people focused
3. Async standup can still be used if someone isn’t able to attend in-person standup
4. Listing your blockers as soon as you start working has the potential for people to help with the blockers before Standup even happens. I regularly will list a blocker and a teammate will reply in the Thread and offer to help with it right away

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👉️ New Zoom Recording from our Office Hours session on 2021-01-27 is now available.

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