#general - March 2020

Does anyone have any experience with Jenkins X? Curious to know what your opinion on it is.

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So I ran across the pgbedrock project as a declarative way of defining and applying postgresql roles in an instance: https://github.com/Squarespace/pgbedrock

it seems to work pretty well if you have everything defined up front and are able to own the postgres instance entirely. A managed postgresql instance (say Azure postgres for example) ends up being more problematic though. In either case, the project is worth a look as it may be a good way to declaratively lay down the schemas/roles/passwords for a db in some scenarios.

I'm still looking for a devops friendly method of maintaining postgresql user role state though 😞 If the terraform providers were able to used depends_on (for firewall rule access to hosted postgres instances) I'd simply use that.

Split the user role stuff into a separate Terraform stack?

Ya what @Raymond Butcher describes is the way with terraform. Basically moving it into a separate project, separate phase.

This is also what’s nice about the upcoming triggers functionality in terraform cloud, but similar things can be done with webhooks in other cicd platforms.

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anyone using teleport by gravitational? there a good channel to ask about it?

@loren we are

can give you a demo

no channel for it yet.

I'm trying to grok Consul ACL system right meow. It suggests individual policies per-agent
https://learn.hashicorp.com/consul/security-networking/production-acls#apply-individual-tokens-to-agents

How tf am I supposed to do that with AWS autoscale groups adding and removing nodes all the time?

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nice bot

i'm jealous of that bot 😉

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any chance a few of you folks could upvote this VScode feature I'm trying to get added into the backlog --- Literally, just click link and click the 👍️ is all I'm asking. Nothing crazy 🙂

https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/84857

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If I have yaml file with:

asdf:
  zxcv:
    vars:
      app: "asdf"

Is it possible to replace “asdf” with some yaml magic to get value “asdf” that’s already there in first line of that file?

I read yaml special features and anchors but seems its not possible, right?

I have a general devops question about logging

how expensive is it to keep, store and index logs?

I wrote about it a bit here https://tersesystems.com/blog/2019/06/03/application-logging-in-java-part-6/ but i could use more reports from the field

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Found that today pulumi. Anyone used it?
https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi

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heya 🙂 👋 thanks! 🙂

Thank you! I am glad to be back with my permanent address this time!

Hey Folks, I introduced myself a few months back when I was last in LA but I've just moved here from London! I'm the founder of Women in DevOps and Director at Trust in Soda. I was hoping to land and meet as many leaders in the DevOps space in LA as much as possible (not only just to learn where the decent breweries are I promise🤣) and see where I can add value from diversity in DevOps standpoint. Under current Covid-19 circumstances, I understand if meetings are off the Menu but would love to get to know as many of you as possible & happy to jump on a hangout.

ps. brewery recommendations or any decent food spots are still more than welcomed!

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👋 I’m here! What’d I miss?

You missed all the things, sorry

Let me catch them up 😄

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Hi all, this might be better in #terraform , but I figure most people there already use TF. We’re giving a free online Terraform workshop aimed at SoCal people (though I guess there’s no reason it’s limited to SoCal). I think we’re making it regional so we can allocate TA’s for the classes more than anything. Originally these were scheduled to be in-person, but Coronavirus happened.

https://events.hashicorp.com/workshops/socalterraform

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I posted this on linkedin in response to office hours, but wanted to make sure it was visible here....

I was asked about cultures/companies in a project that I admired... and SweetOps, Gruntworks, and basecamp both were in my response. I appreciate the contributions back to the community, the great documentation and help. I've used so much of the terraform modules that are open source to jump start my understanding of better design as a terraform adopter. Thank you! 🌮 🌮 🌮 🌮 🌮

I'd like to say I'm inspired also by your build-harness and trying to replicate something like this for Invoke-Build with powershell-core for sharing my simple tasks and functions with the team in a more central way. The build-harness idea is such a great concept that I've not seen used in such an effective way

Thanks @sheldonh! Can't tell you enough how much we appreciate it when we hear from our community. Thanks for taking the time to let us know how we've helped.

[THREAD] Terraform Best Practices Docs

Invoke-Build is a masterpiece of powershell work

haven't touched powershell in like 2 years but it was used extensively for my own powershell module framework,...er ... module.

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@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) I got another Calm person in here. @Joe Bagdon is killing it with DevSecOps @ calm 🙂

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is there a databases channel for people configuring databases? i need some help configuring a mongodb replicaset. Will pay!

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I made a reference to IRC the other day and totally showed my age... That being said, the IRC modern replacement seems to be matrix.org and is worth keeping an eye on.

yeah matrix is pretty nice

tinkering around with bridges on it next. If it can effectively bridge keybase, slack, and signal I'd be surprised (pleasantly so)....

Anyone have read Ansible for DevOps? Is it any good?
https://leanpub.com/ansible-for-devops

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HashiCorp is looking for the community to nominate folks you think are good Ambassadors of HashiCorp tools. If you know anyone that fits this bill, please nominate them: https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/hashicorp-ambassador-call-for-nominations/

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Spelunking through the cloudposse repos I can't seem to find the awesome tool that generates readmes from the yml template

Ah! It is gomplate! https://github.com/hairyhenderson/gomplate

This is such a great community! Wanted to ask if you'd considered running a discourse forum. While I love chat, all this stuff is so good, with the 10,000 message limit, I sure wish I could reread through old material more.

Kudos to you guys as well as I'm super OCD in slack about threading all the time. This is the only community I've seen effectively reduce the noise more with threading. I saw a slack extension called "Slow Mode" like Discord and thought about all the need for threading if you want context here.

I actually added a "poshbot" plugin (chatops) bot, that helps recommend threading to people when x number of messages in a room are posted in sequence.

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https://github.com/cloudposse/dev links to https://github.com/cloudposse/local-dev-scaffolding which doesn't exist.. or is it private?

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Any golang coders out there have opinionated takes on their fav cli modules to use for their projects? I was starting to use Cobra (https://github.com/spf13/cobra) then ran across cli (https://github.com/urfave/cli) and am starting to get doubtful I made the right choice...

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After having addressed in my annual review a desire to see clear support for contributing/publishing code to github that is not proprietary, I had a positive response asking me to bring a proposal for open source contributions policy to management.

Any blog posts or resources on this?

Coming from a company that is new to this. It will need take a middleground.
Ie, they agree they don't want to have it submitted to a committee and all.
On the other hand no logging/reporting and pure trust is likely to be a no go too.

I need a proposal that makes them feel safe with some control to audit if required but not go through a lot of red tape.
The types of projects would be devops/cloud stuff that's not really specific to business logic, more SRE/DevOps/Tooling.

OPA

that is all, good luck!

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☝️ new bot to to send threads to https://ask.sweetops.com for curation. it's a wip - want to create a way to persist questions and answers in a way that we can revise them and keep the conversation going if folks need more help.

/discourse help to get usage.

The discourse forum has SSO with Slack/GitHub/LinkedIn so you don't need to create a new account.

That's awfully cloudy of you, good stuff

And kudos for setting it up the same week sheldonh asked about a discourse! 🙂

Adding @U010XGY9B46 bot

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how many companies here are doing cost cutting stuff cause of the pandemic ?

I would imagine all of them minus some healthcare and supply chain driven industries. Client's I work for are at least. All tea leaf readers are saying this will be a hard and fast hit to the global economy that will rebound quickly compared to prior recessions. I personally predict that the moment broader/faster testing of the virus is able to be done is when we will start to see a turn around in the economy. There are some very fast/portable testing units fast tracking through the red tape approval process even now (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/28/coronavirus-fda-authorizes-abbott-labs-fast-portable-covid-test/2932766001/). When this happens be prepared to see a very high demand for skilled workers across all sectors.

Alternatively, this thing could mutate and bring on the next zombie apocalypse. Then, well I hope you stocked up on toilet paper....;)

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[THREAD] Improving Change Request Tracking Process

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